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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_May_4


May 4

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:5th-century Patriarchs of Alexandria

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant category, to either merge or turn into a subcat of the latter. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 13:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Towns by country

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Nominator's rationale: manually merge, "town" has a different meaning in every country, some countries do not even distinguish between towns and cities, therefore we have been in a long process to merge them to "populated places". This nomination is a tiny part of that process. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Most articles and subcategories will already be in a Populated places by country subdivision category, therefore the proposal is to merge manually rather than automatically. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:22, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Redundant at lease for Sudan. FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Recipients of the Order of the National Flag

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Nominator's rationale: This category was previously deleted under the discussion log here in 2013: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 August 25 - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Category:Patent legislation

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Nominator's rationales: (1) I got lost in the category trees before realizing they were not fully connected; I propose to make the smaller category into a redirect. (2) The relevant legislation is almost always national, so "by country" is the right concept. (3) In a few cases, e.g. Patent Act and international treaties, the concept is transnational, so an article can be classified in more generic categories such as Category:Patent law. (4) "Legislation" would be a better title for legislative work in progress, but we have few if any articles about that; the articles are about completed Acts aka laws. I only need to do a dozen manual edits to get this done, I think. I wanted to check with experts here to see if there's any reason not to charge ahead with the task. -- econterms (talk) 20:01, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not clear to me why a "law by country" tree and a "legislation" category cannot exist in parallel. Of course articles should also be in country categories if they exist, but that is not a reason to drop the "Legislation" category per se. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:08, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag the category. Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:19th-century Azerbaijani male actors

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Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. The only member of this category (Huseyn Arablinski) became notable in 1905...which is the 20th-century SMasonGarrison 00:27, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:1st-century texts in Latin

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Nominator's rationale: manually merge, isolated category, this is not useful for navigation. Manually merge because most articles are already in Category:1st-century inscriptions and Category:Latin inscriptions. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose: Why and how is this not "helpful for navigation"? This cross-category is defining/neutral/verifiable and precise and can therefore be kept. It currently contains 5 pages but can obviously contain more. -Mushy Yank. 18:58, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:27, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:German historical fencers

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Nominator's rationale: delete, as the header already indicates this is a confusing category. Instead I have added the articles to Category:14th-century fencers, Category:15th-century fencers etc. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also merge to Category:German male fencers?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:38, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lý dynasty in fiction

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Nominator's rationale: delete, one article only, which is not helpful for navigation. I don't think we need to merge this somewhere, the article is already in proper 13th-century and Vietnamese fiction categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: it is defining/verifiable/neutral and precise, so can be kept. -Mushy Yank. 18:54, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is not the point of the nomination. Categories exist for easy navigation between related articles and this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What is not the point of your nomination? How I missing it? You suggest deletion and my !vote is based on the fact that this a perfectly valid category, so I oppose its deletion. As for it being useful or not, I find it useful and it makes navigation between categories about fiction in various dynasties or other periods, easy; see Category:History of Vietnam in fiction. The category being valid, I therefore find its deletion unnecessary. -Mushy Yank. 21:57, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete. Validity is not why we have categories. The criteria is whether the category is helpful for moving between pages. There is only one page in here, which is extremely unhelpful for navigation. SMasonGarrison 00:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 00:19, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Children's books set in ancient history and Middle Ages

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Nominator's rationale: merge, mostly 1- or 2-article categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose: I find it helpful (how is it not helpful for navigation?) and I can't see why, when precise defining/neutral/verifiable categories exist, we should merge them into extremely broad ones covering centuries. It is not only unnecessary, it is detrimental to the project in my opinion. As for the number of articles contained (if that is relevant), one contains 6 pages, another 4 and a subcat!) and was a WP:BEFORE performed to check that those categories cannot contain more pages, anyway? -Mushy Yank. 18:52, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 00:19, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:English expatriates in the Habsburg Netherlands

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. I think that this category should be renamed and reparented, if not merged. SMasonGarrison 18:50, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:25, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:14, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison: Thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:15, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy for the alternative rename to Expatriates in the Spanish Netherlands SMasonGarrison 00:19, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American historians by populated place

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Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just two entries. Also merge to Category:Historians by populated place Lost in Quebec (talk) 23:15, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on 4meter4 and Marcocapelle's points?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:23, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:14, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge for now. @4meter4 is welcome to create additional subcats, but we depreciated small cat because potential for growth was too nebulous. I'm neutral on local historians, but that's because I wonder how messy it could get down the line when people are miscategorized. SMasonGarrison 00:24, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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